{"id":46,"date":"2014-09-19T21:17:35","date_gmt":"2014-09-20T02:17:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/oddlysincere.com\/?p=46"},"modified":"2025-02-14T21:59:02","modified_gmt":"2025-02-15T03:59:02","slug":"what-i-dont-believe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/oddlysincere.com\/?p=46","title":{"rendered":"What I (don&#8217;t) believe"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>What follows is most of an email I sent to a friend today. I&#8217;ve talked about my very-nearly-reversal on faith\/religion before.&nbsp;When I read this again, though, I decided that it&#8217;s <em>pretty close<\/em> to the best job I&#8217;ve ever done explaining my position (particularly to an audience of believers). So, I decided to post it on my web log (which, probably most importantly, syndicates to my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Facebook<\/a> page). This will likely be a big ol&#8217; batch of &#8220;knew that already&#8221; to most people, but I think there&#8217;s good info there for people who are sincerely curious.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Keep in mind that I (as always) reserve the right to do anything I damned well please to any content that shows up on my blog. That being said, you can probably tell that me and said friend don&#8217;t agree. I&#8217;m posting this anyway, though. I&#8217;m quite tolerant of dissenting viewpoints, as long as my impression is that those beliefs are being shared for some&nbsp;purpose&nbsp;<em>other<\/em> than simply to show me that&nbsp;I&#8217;m &#8220;wrong&#8221; (and\/or to explain what&#8217;s &#8220;right&#8221;). Newsflash: I already agree that I don&#8217;t know everything, and I think that&#8217;s the biggest thing that&#8217;s happened to me since I was a card-carrying believer: I&#8217;m&nbsp;<em>okay<\/em> with not knowing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The point of this&nbsp;<em>isn&#8217;t<\/em> to convince anyone to change his\/her mind. The point is to clearly and plainly express <em>my<\/em>&nbsp;<em>own<\/em> beliefs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Okay. disclaimer out of the way. I&#8217;m going to quote from the email now. I&nbsp;<em>won&#8217;t<\/em> be using the &#8220;blockquote&#8221; tag, because that apparently prevents me from being able to&nbsp;<em>italicize<\/em> text.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr \/>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m struggling <em>quite<\/em> hard right now with my past assertion that I have <em>no<\/em> desire to change your mind. I&#8217;ve realized that&#8217;s not <em>completely<\/em> true. What <em>is<\/em> true is that I don&#8217;t relish the thought of creating conflict. I realize there is such a thing as &#8220;healthy debate&#8221;, but that depends on both parties being willing to be convinced to change their own minds. While that&#8217;s <em>technically<\/em> true for me, the kind of argument that would convince me is something that I think every believer would say, &#8220;isn&#8217;t the way God works&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Also, please understand that the text below is not intended as an \u201cattack\u201d. It\u2019s merely the only way I know how to express what I believe in the presence of the&nbsp;<em>huge<\/em>&nbsp;\u201cgulf\u201d between me and a believer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to them, it\u2019s a case of me not being willing to believe what they think is\u00a0<em>obvious<\/em>. My mind goes back to\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Mandy_Patinkin\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Mandy Patinkin<\/a>\u2018s line (as\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Inigo_Montoya\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">\u201cInigo Montoya\u201d<\/a>) in\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Princess_Bride_(film)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>The Princess Bride<\/em><\/a>: \u201cYou keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.\u201d While I\u00a0<em>completely<\/em>\u00a0agree that it\u2019s possible for someone to \u201crefuse to see\u201d something that\u2019s \u201cobvious\u201d to most people, the thing they refer to as \u201cobvious\u201d invariably requires<em> <\/em>that the listener <em>already believes in God<\/em>. Basically, the things they identify as reasons for believing in God are dependent upon a belief in God.\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jeopardy!\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">I\u2019ll take \u201ccircular logic\u201d for $1000, Alex.<\/a>\u00a0I think that the primary problem is that my state of non-belief isn\u2019t\u00a0<em>remotely<\/em>\u00a0similar to what most believers are used to dealing with. We live in a world where my belief in a creator is all but\u00a0<em>assumed<\/em>, and my background as a former Christian makes that<em> even more<\/em> likely. I\u00a0<em>try<\/em>\u00a0to be like someone who has no prior knowledge of God (mostly because I have no reason [other than the desire for comfort] to believe in what I was taught), and I\u2019m\u00a0<em>very\u00a0<\/em>skeptical about any \u201ctruths\u201d which do not flow\u00a0<em>directly\u00a0from<\/em> things I can observe myself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As a matter of fact, every believer that has been willing to talk to me on that level has said (in effect) that there&nbsp;<em>is no such evidence<\/em>. They\u2019ve said that belief in God&nbsp;<em>requires<\/em>&nbsp;a \u201cleap\u201d beyond the logical. My opinion is that someone who created my brain and is \u201call-knowing\u201d should know what would convince me. The fact that I haven\u2019t experienced<em> anything<\/em>&nbsp;that convinces me of such a being\u2019s existence says that 1) I\u2019m&nbsp;<em>incredibly<\/em>&nbsp;unobservant, 2) that being doesn\u2019t&nbsp;<em>exist<\/em>, or 3) that being has specifically&nbsp;<em>chosen<\/em>&nbsp;not to reveal him\/her\/itself to me. I think my life so far has been a&nbsp;<em>demonstration<\/em>&nbsp;that 1) isn\u2019t true. If it\u2019s 3), then this being is such an&nbsp;<em>incredible<\/em>&nbsp;asshole that I don\u2019t want anything to do with him\/her\/it. The resulting action is also equivalent to 2) being true. Finally, 2) is also the <em>simpler <\/em>answer, so I choose it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, what that \u201ctranslates to\u201d for most believers is an unwillingness to be convinced. If you don\u2019t see it that way, then I would be&nbsp;<em>quite<\/em>&nbsp;willing to continue the conversation.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What follows is most of an email I sent to a friend today. I&#8217;ve talked about my very-nearly-reversal on faith\/religion before.&nbsp;When I read this again, though, I decided that it&#8217;s pretty close to the best job I&#8217;ve ever done explaining my position (particularly to an audience of believers). 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